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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 8:00pm

Todesstrafe

Hi Leutz

Wegen dem Thema mim Saddam und weil mich das auch so schon länger interessiert würde ich gern mal wissen was ihr von der Todesstrafe haltet.

Also seit ihr dafür oder dagegen? (und warum?)

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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 8:03pm

Eigendlich bin ich gegen die Todestrafee, aber in speziellen ganz schlimmen fällen finde ich es OK zwar nicht unbeding gut weil es bestimmt bessere strafen gibt (z.B. Lebendlänglich im Gefängnis würde ich persönlich schlimmer finden)...

Zum Tema Saddam: Ich da ich ja generell gegen die Todesstrafe bin find ich das bei ihm auch nicht unbedingt gut aber gerecht...
Jedem das seine, mir nur das Feine

This post has been edited 1 times, last edit by "El Paso" (Jan 6th 2007, 8:08pm)


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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 8:06pm

kurz und knapp: Dagegen

"The Gods Made Heavy Metal And They Saw That It Was Good"

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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 8:06pm

Bin eigl. dagenen...finde es ist eine größere Strafe das ganze Leben im Knast zu sitzen.
Nach dem Tot leidet man ja nichtmehr^^

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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 8:09pm

Bin gespaltener Meinung ;):

Einerseits sollte man nicht Gott spielen und über Leben und Tod entscheiden, andererseits würde ich einen Tod, einem Leben hinter Gittern vorziehen.
Sollte evtl. zur Wahl gestellt werden für den Verurteilten.

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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 8:13pm

bin auch der meinung dass lebenslang hinter gittern schlimmer is als der tod. deshalb
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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 8:13pm

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z.B. Lebendlänglich im Gefängnis würde ich persönlich schlimmer finden


Das sagst du jetzt so lapidar daher, aber wenn es dann soweit ist, bist du 100% anderer Meinung :).

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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 8:15pm

Ganz klar dagegen, da niemand (und am allerwenigsten der Staat) das Recht hat, Herr über Leben und Tod zu spielen.

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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 8:16pm

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Original von T.C.
kurz und knapp: Dagegen


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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 8:18pm

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Original von manson

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z.B. Lebendlänglich im Gefängnis würde ich persönlich schlimmer finden


Das sagst du jetzt so lapidar daher, aber wenn es dann soweit ist, bist du 100% anderer Meinung :).


Wetten nicht - Ich hab keine Angst zu sterben,.. aber die Vorstellung den est meines Lebens in einen Rau gefangen zu sein und schlecht behandelt zu werden,... Bah
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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 8:21pm

Dagegen:

- Eine Todesstrafe in demokratischen Ländern ist teurer als eine lebenslange Haftstrafe
- Für den Täter ist der Tod wie eine Erlösung, also lieber wegsperren
- Opfer von Verbrechen sagen meistens, dass die Todesstrafe für den Täter ihr Leiden nicht bessert
- ...

Gibt genug Gründe dagegen und kaum welche dafür
Ich bin schwul, ich bin jüdisch und ein Kommunist dazu, ich bin schwarz und behindert doch genauso Mensch wie Du.
Ich bin hochintelligent und doch so doof wie Sauerkraut, ich bin schön, ich bin häßlich, ich bin fett und gut gebaut.

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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 8:30pm

Klar DAGEGEN.

Der Staat darf nicht töten !

Ob ich jemandem was antun würde, der nem geliebtem Menschen was schlimmes angetan hat, dass ist ne andere Sache. Wird oft vermischt in den Diskussionen - hier erfreulicher Weise aber noch nicht :)

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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 8:30pm

Wieso teurer? Die bekommen ne spritze und gut ist? Wieso ist das teurer als einen Menschen lebenslang zu ernähren?
Jedem das seine, mir nur das Feine

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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 8:39pm

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Wieso teurer? Die bekommen ne spritze und gut ist? Wieso ist das teurer als einen Menschen lebenslang zu ernähren?


Zumindest in den USA ist es teurer, weil die Todeskandidaten viele viele Jahre sitzen. Todeskandidaten haben ne andere Sicherheitsstufe die auch noch mal teurer ist. Revisionsanträge werden auch mehrmals gestattet - auch teurer.
Wobei grad DAS pervers ist - bei Todeskandidaten muss der Staat "sicherer" sein als bei lebenslangen. Normal sollte ja eigentlich gelten : Unschuldig, bis die Schuld bewiesen ist.

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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 8:41pm

Oft wollen "die" ja schnell nen schuldigen finden und dann kommts schnell mal vor das unschuldige verurteilt werden
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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 9:14pm

Den Fall Saddam habe ich jetzt nicht so mitverfolgt, aber meiner Meinung nach ist die Todesstrafe der falsche Weg.

Welcher der richtige ist, ist sehr schwer und sehr subjektiv zu entscheiden.

Bsp:

Hätte ich ein Kind, nehmen wir an ein Mädchen und würde dieses entführt, von einem erwachsenen Mann, welcher sich an ihr auf brutalste Weise vergeht, sie quält, missbraucht und nachher unmenschlich umbringt (umbringen ist immer unmenschlich ^^ grad gedacht hab), dann würde ich diesen Kerl gerne sterben sehen.
Aber nicht auf dem Stuhl, sondern ich würd ihn Jahrelang foltern und dann elendig sterben lassen.
Wenn man in so einer Situation selbst betroffen ist, verstehe ich, wenn man die Todesstrafe wünscht,

aber:

jeder menschliche Verstand muss einsehen, dass wir nicht über Leben und Tod entscheiden dürfen, auch wenn wir das dauernd tun.
(Abtreibung etc). Ich denke außerdem, dass Todesstrafe nicht gut ist, weil man Schlechtes mit Schlechtem ausgleichen will.

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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 10:26pm

ich bin definitiv dagegen, da meiner meinung nach niemand das recht hat zu töten

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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 10:31pm

Ich hab für Dagegen gestimmt.

Generell bin ich aber nicht dagegen. In welchen Fällen ich sie akzeptabel finde, steht im Saddam Hussein Thread.

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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 10:33pm

Ich finde es auch nicht okay, schlechtes mit schlechtem zu bestrafen. Dann ist man ja nicht selber besser...

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Saturday, January 6th 2007, 10:38pm

Sorry ich finds richtig wenn die den "nur" einsperren werden irgendwann wieder tausende von Menschen sterben nur damit die Saddam Fanatiker ihn aus dem Knast bekommen.