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Speedy2lc2003

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Monday, April 13th 2009, 10:44pm

was verdiene shops an deutschem tabak?

Mmhh ne frage verdiene die shops an dem tabak etwas wenn die den verkaufen?
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Monday, April 13th 2009, 10:46pm

Natürlich verdienen die was, wie sinnfrei wär das denn? :rolleyes:
Aber auf den Dingern sind so viele Steuern drauf, dass da nicht wirklich viel übrig bleibt (v.A. verglichen mit dem Gewinn, den man mit ausl. Tabak machen würde).

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altaaa kugelfang ... nur weil du genasium bist....


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Speedy2lc2003

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Monday, April 13th 2009, 10:48pm

weil ich überlege so nen laden mit online shop aufzumache bei uns in der gegend, weil ihr immer mehr rauchen, und ich den leuten tabak kohle und co besorgen soll, und es wird immer mehr, weis einer wie viel die dran verdiene?
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Monday, April 13th 2009, 10:49pm

Ja aber was die Verkäufer verdienen ist echt zum totlachen,meistens 1euro pro 5ogr Packung! wo der staat 2euro glaub ich verdient und der rest produktion und überführung...

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Monday, April 13th 2009, 10:51pm

Ist wie bei normalen Zigaretten, denk ich.

Da bekommen zum Beispiel Kiosks Antweile, dass sie die Zigaretten Packungen verkaufen.
Aber die denke ich nicht sonderich hoch sein werden auf Grund von Steuern und Richtlinien.


Somit denke ich auch , dass die Shops einen kleinen Anteil Gewinn machen, denn irgendwie müssen auch Tabake vermarktet werden und im Umlauf kommen.
Sollten sie dies wohlmöglich dann auch noch ohne Entgeld machen, würde der Markt dem Bach runter gehen und keiner das Produkt kaufen:).

Denn wer macht Heutzutage noch was für Umsonst?

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Monday, April 13th 2009, 10:51pm

oh das ist echt wenig, die meisten würden jetzt sagen lohnt sich eh net so was aufzu machen, aber da es bei uns sowas in der gegen net gibt, und es sowieso bei den türken läden nur billig schrott gibt währe das ne geile sache sowas aufzumachen
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Monday, April 13th 2009, 10:55pm

Ein paar Cent springen raus, mehr nicht.

Chris, schreib doch schnell mal was dazu! :-)

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Monday, April 13th 2009, 10:58pm

@Hamst0r war mal auf deiner seit und hab mir alles angeschaut muss sagen echt top
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Monday, April 13th 2009, 10:59pm

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oh das ist echt wenig, die meisten würden jetzt sagen lohnt sich eh net so was aufzu machen, aber da es bei uns sowas in der gegen net gibt, und es sowieso bei den türken läden nur billig schrott gibt währe das ne geile sache sowas aufzumachen


Denkst du....

Der Markt ist mit Onlineshops absolut überschwämmt, in diese Richtung geht kaum noch was. Es gibt genug Onlineshops die einen sehr guten Ruf haben sich dahin vor zu arbeiten kann dauern.

Dann brauchst du ein gewisses Eigenkapital denn du musst ja schließlich erstmal ordentlich Waren einkaufen bevor du damit loslegen kannst.

Dann musst du das ganze als Gewerbe anmelden, das ist noch mit das einfachste. Du darfst absofort Steuer und Co. machen und all das was Vater Staat als Gewerbetreibender von dir verlangt.

Und nur um einen Shop in deiner Gegend zu eröffnen wäre mir das Risiko zu groß, da sollte man erstmal Marktforschung betreiben ob sich das ganze überhaupt lohnt sonst hat man sich ganz schnell verschuldet.

Ich denke du stellst dir das ganze etwas sehr einfach vor.
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Monday, April 13th 2009, 11:05pm

Lohnt sich garantiert nicht. Die Gewinnspanne sowie die Absatzmenge (wer würde denn sonst außer deinen Kollegen bei dir nur Tabak bestellen?) wären viel zu gering.

Also ich kenne jedenfalls keinen Onlineshop der sich ausschließlich auf (Wasserpfeifen-)tabak spezialisiert. Es sei denn du verkaufst Ware im höheren Preissegment wie z.B. besondere Zigarren bei denen dann die Gewinnspanne deutlich höher ist.
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Monday, April 13th 2009, 11:07pm

ja das stimmt schon das sollte gut überlegt sein, aber hir in der gegend gibts so viele jugendliche und es werden immer her die shisha rauchen, und bei uns gibts keine shops in der nähe mit gescheiter wahre zu gescheiten preißen für 1kg cococcha wollen die 7euro
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Monday, April 13th 2009, 11:11pm

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ja das stimmt schon das sollte gut überlegt sein, aber hir in der gegend gibts so viele jugendliche und es werden immer her die shisha rauchen, und bei uns gibts keine shops in der nähe mit gescheiter wahre zu gescheiten preißen für 1kg cococcha wollen die 7euro


Wie gesagt in meinen Augen schaut mir das ganze hier nach einer wenig durchdachten fixen Idee aus.

Du stellst dir das alles ein bisschen sehr einfach vor. Du musst um gute Preis bieten zu können erstmal gute Lieferanten finden mit denen du etwas aushandelst.

Abnahmemenge bestimmt hierbei den Preis. Kein Lieferant macht dir gute Preise wenn du ihm nicht genug Ware abnimmst. Schließlich muss es sich auch für den Lieferanten lohnen.

Auch ist es sehr unrealistisch zu denken das sich ein Shop rein über Shishas finanzieren lässt. Da du als von eurer Gegend sprichst gehe ich von einem Ladengeschäft aus. So musst du ja auch noch Miete, Unterhaltskosten und Co einkalkulieren. Das alles nur über Shishawaren zu finanzieren ist nicht gerade realistisch.
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Monday, April 13th 2009, 11:15pm

Eben evtl. allgemeine Raucherware auch einbeziehen.
Sprich Zigaretten/Drehtabak/Pfeifen etc.^^
Würde schon mal ein größeres Spektrum an Kunden ansprechen.

Evtl. auch gleich nen Head-Shop aufmachen ^^
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Monday, April 13th 2009, 11:16pm

ich könnte auch ein kleinen laden direct in meiner scheune mache hab ich die ladenmiete vorerst mal gespart
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Monday, April 13th 2009, 11:18pm

Ich denke weiterhin das du dir das ganze viel zu einfach vorstellst.

Aber wenn du meinst das sich das lohnt, viel Spass.
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Monday, April 13th 2009, 11:20pm

mal ne frage am rande, die nicht böse klingen soll ,
wie alt bist du eigentlich ?

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Monday, April 13th 2009, 11:26pm

:Dfast 21, bisher hab ich schon vieles geschaft was ich schaffen wollte und so wird das auch in zukunft bleiben, ich sehe das so einfach weil ichs halt so sehen will und das ist hir halt ne marktlükke die ich schliesen will
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Monday, April 13th 2009, 11:28pm

Sorry, aber dann finde ich, denkst du mit 21 sehr Primitiv. Tut mir leid.

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Monday, April 13th 2009, 11:29pm

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:Dfast 21, bisher hab ich schon vieles geschaft was ich schaffen wollte und so wird das auch in zukunft bleiben, ich sehe das so einfach weil ichs halt so sehen will und das ist hir halt ne marktlükke die ich schliesen will


Viele Leute sind mit sowas gewaltig auf die Fresse geflogen.

Du kannst dir damit deine ganze Zukunft versauen, auch würde ich das ganze gerade bei der Vielzahl an Onlineshops nicht als Marktlücke bezeichnen.

Nehmen wir mal an jeder 2te aus deiner Gegend findet hier ins Forum, viele von denen würden nicht mehr bei dir einkaufen da sie hier Onlineshops empfohlen bekommen. Somit verlierst du Kunde um Kunde und wenn du Pech hast sitzt du nachher auf deinen Waren fest.
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Monday, April 13th 2009, 11:32pm

naja wenn ihr das denkt dann denkt das mal und auserdem habe ich gefragt was die leute an deutschem tabak verdienen, und habe net gefragt ihr sollt eure meinung zu dem sagen ob ihrs gut und schlecht findet wenn man sowas macht, und die forum regeln hir sind für den ..... das ist mal meine meinung
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